If so, then why would he let them run out of money in an area like India - an area that has so many people and that hasn't had much of a warning???
The reply would be;
India is full of goats!
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No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real
by cognitivedizzy inguys .
a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.
i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.
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What I would like to see soon!
by John Aquila ini would like to see one or better two members of the governing body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like ray franz exposing the cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the watchtower closet..
what would be different today compared to rays time is that we now live in a social media world..
they would be invited to talk in the oprah winfrey show, ellen degeneres show, the view, dateline.
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It might serve the interests of ex-JWs here to fund a soft landing for any GB member who chooses to leave the org and spill the beans...
I never thought of that, that would be cool to have Lett or Jackson posting on this site and asking everyone if they still believe in God.
What kind of avatar would they use?
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What I would like to see soon!
by John Aquila ini would like to see one or better two members of the governing body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like ray franz exposing the cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the watchtower closet..
what would be different today compared to rays time is that we now live in a social media world..
they would be invited to talk in the oprah winfrey show, ellen degeneres show, the view, dateline.
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They probably have all higher ups (branch coordinators, bethel elders, committee members, and GB) sign a non-disclosure agreement or confidentiality agreement and extend this 50 years AFTER they leave
That may be true but it doesn’t necessarily stop people from spilling the beans. Examples like Jeffrey Wigand the whistleblower in the tobacco industry and several others. It didn’t matter to them if they went to jail.
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What would happen ??
by Clambake inthere is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.
first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".
he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".
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There is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.
Speaking as a former elder, I would never let any man especially an elder to get that close to my wife. Definitely tell him if he needs to talk to your wife regarding anything, he needs to go through you. That's the headship arrangement in the JW world.
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What I would like to see soon!
by John Aquila ini would like to see one or better two members of the governing body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like ray franz exposing the cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the watchtower closet..
what would be different today compared to rays time is that we now live in a social media world..
they would be invited to talk in the oprah winfrey show, ellen degeneres show, the view, dateline.
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What I would like to see soon!
by John Aquila ini would like to see one or better two members of the governing body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like ray franz exposing the cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the watchtower closet..
what would be different today compared to rays time is that we now live in a social media world..
they would be invited to talk in the oprah winfrey show, ellen degeneres show, the view, dateline.
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I would like to see one or better two members of the Governing Body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like Ray Franz exposing the Cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time Bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the Watchtower closet.
What would be different today compared to Ray’s time is that we now live in a social media world.
They would be invited to talk in the Oprah Winfrey show, Ellen DeGeneres show, The View, Dateline. It would be all over the internet, being accessed by all the mobile phones worldwide. They would be the joke on Saturday Night live and all the night time shows with skits making fun of their pious behavior.
The Watchtower would not be able to silence them like they did with Ray Franz. The scare tactic to stay away from apostate talk would not work anymore because there are too many outlets beside books written by apostates and one TV dateline expose.
It would be like Bill Cosby the father of Jell-O pudding finally getting caught with all the publicity. There is no escaping social media. The members would be too embarrassed to continue to be linked to the organization.
It would definitely be a huge blow like never before. Although many would still stay in, millions would start waking up, especially the young ones. There would be people fading like crazy and disassociating like never before. Parents who had shunned their kids for years would start making contact and apologizing and vise-versa.
I believe that would start the demise of the Watchtower into a very small religious cult never to rise again into a powerful controlling mega-business cult.
Anything can happen these days which is why I say, never say never.
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My fade might well start today.
by StarTrekAngel inmany here whom have read my previous posts know more or less my situation.
wife is not hardcore but we still bump heads from time to time.
if it wasn't for this cult, and while it was not an issue, we had an almost perfect marriage.
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From my standpoint, your situation looks pretty good. In other words there is hope.
My ex-wife would not compromise for anything. She was a hard core pioneer. She would have never bought a lottery ticket just because the WT said it was wrong. She would have never agreed to therapy. She would have called the elders for action immediately if I outright said I didn’t believe in the WT anymore. All I said was, “The Blood doctrine has changed” and she was out the door after 25 years.
So to me, you situation looks pretty promising that she will wake up.
Good luck!
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The Angels will guide a nuclear bomb away from the Governing Body!
by John Aquila inthis is one major reason why i dont try to wake up anyone anymore.
they need to take the first step, and then i will help---- if they ask.
otherwise i just listen and marvel at how some of them think.
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Londo, that experience by the CO is crazier than mine. How low can they go?
Thanks for the link.
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The Angels will guide a nuclear bomb away from the Governing Body!
by John Aquila inthis is one major reason why i dont try to wake up anyone anymore.
they need to take the first step, and then i will help---- if they ask.
otherwise i just listen and marvel at how some of them think.
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Why is religious propaganda dangerous?
Because people really believe it !!!!!
I mean think about it. What is this guy capable of with these fantasies rolling around in his head?
That's why thousands have died because of the blood doctrine----because they believe with all their heart that it's what God wants.
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The Angels will guide a nuclear bomb away from the Governing Body!
by John Aquila inthis is one major reason why i dont try to wake up anyone anymore.
they need to take the first step, and then i will help---- if they ask.
otherwise i just listen and marvel at how some of them think.
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This is one major reason why I don’t try to wake up anyone anymore. They need to take the first step, and then I will help---- if they ask. Otherwise I just listen and marvel at how some of them think.
Sad to say that, 30 years ago, I would have believed everything this elder was saying.
Oh how time and experience changes us as persons.
This morning I got into a lengthy in-depth discussion with an elder from one of my previous congregations. He believes Jehovah is giving special protection to the members of the governing body because they are the “Main” ones directing the important work of warning people of the coming destruction on the whole world.
This guy is so convinced, that he has an array of scriptures ready at his disposal to back up his belief.
At one point he used these scriptures to prove that the purpose of all the angels was to protect the Governing Body.
(Hebrews 1:14) . . .Are they not all spirits for public service, sent forth to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation. . .
(Psalm 34:7) . . .The angel of Jehovah is camping all around those fearing him, And he rescues them.
Then he tells me;
“Haven’t you ever wondered why the planes of 911 (Twin Towers) were directed to New York?”“Why New York, why not Washington D.C. where the U.S. President is?
Why not California where all the movie stars are?
Why NEW YORK???
At this point I had no idea where he was going with this. But I knew I wouldn’t have to go to Redbox today to get my new movie for the week, I was about to be entertained. So I just kept quiet and listened.
So he goes on;
“New York was the hub of Jehovah’s earthly work, no doubt all the angels were there or at least 90% of them were watching over the Governing Body” making sure that Satan does not harm them. If you do your research, and are humble, then you will understand why it was called “Bethel” Then he showed me these scriptures;
(Genesis 28:12-19) . . . look! there was a ladder stationed upon the earth and its top reaching up to the heavens; and, look! there were God’s angels ascending and descending on it. . .
This is nothing else but the house of God and this is the gate of the heavens.” So Jacob got up early in the morning and took the stone that was there as his head supporter and he set it up as a pillar and poured oil on the top of it. Further, he called the name of that place Beth′el;. . .
He goes on;
“That’s what 911 was really all about. Satan was directing those planes to the Watchtower headquarters but the Angels re-routed the planes to another direction.”
(Now let me stop here for a minute. I know what you all are going to say---(you could have said this or that, or I would have said this to him)
But to be honest, I was freaked out at what this guy was saying and how he was saying it. He was totally convinced. He was talking in a calm monotone voice. His eyes looked like he was in a trace as he stared straight at me.
I did ask him, “But what about all those innocent people” and he blew it off by saying; “Don’t worry about that, Jehovah can read hearts and will resurrected those that are worthy.”
He said a lot of other crazy stuff that I will omit, we talked for about an hour, but the last thing he said before he left was;
“You have no idea the great privilege we (JWS) have, to be working with the faithful and discreet slave in this time of the end. In fact I’m going to tell you a little secret. He opens his Bible and asks me if I remember this account;
(Matthew 20:20-23) . . .Then the mother of the sons of Zeb′e·dee approached him with her sons, doing obeisance and asking for something from him. 21 He said to her: “What do you want?” She said to him: “Give the word that these my two sons may sit down, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.” 22 Jesus said in answer: “YOU men do not know what YOU are asking for. Can YOU drink the cup that I am about to drink?” They said to him: “We can.” 23 He said to them: “YOU will indeed drink my cup, but this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.. . .
His final words were;
“More than likely, two of these brothers serving in the Governing Body, (will be the ones Jehovah will choose to sit on the right and on the left hand of Jesus.”)
“Think about that today”
Then he starts walking away to his car and comes to an abrupt stop, turns around quickly, looks at me and points his finger at my face, and says;
“Seriously, Think about it!”
Gets in his car, and drives away.
Holy F***----------What an experience!
I was actually entertained.
